Johnny C. Taylor of SHRM: Navigating Leadership and Inclusion

In this raw, honest, and in-depth interview, Johnny C. Taylor, CEO of SHRM talks about his controversial decision to move from using DEI to I&D.

Business leaders and HR professionals have been activated by this decision, sparking thousands of thoughtful (and not-so-thoughtful) conversations nationwide.

I sat down with Johnny over the weekend to get answers to all the questions the world has been asking: why did he make the decision, what has the fallout been, what would say to his detractors today, and where do we go from here?